Posts by Sarah Smiles

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Witness 007 returns to wife and meetings..I give up! Sorry no choice!

by Witness 007 in

my wife's been having mental problems since hurting her back at work...we split for 8 weeks {her doing} then she rings me and says she "can't cope and is lonely" so i return {the drama continues} she seems more stable, sleeping all night...what a change!

her mood had become alittle more stable.

she found a part time job, and has not been dragged off by security like her last job...much improved though she dropped 10 kilos in weight.

Sarah Smiles

Dropping the Witnesses and hurting herself at work and being isolated from people has led her down this path

Witness 007 you need to seek help! Someone you can talk with, because your not thinking clear and your reasoning for going back to your wife does not make any sense. If you want to go to meetings go, but do not use your unstable wife as in excuse to attend meetings! If you go because of your wife your going to become angry and lash out on the wrong person.

What do you think everyone who reads this post is going to pate you on your back and see you as a hero or what a nice guy! NO people are going to read this post and think that you are confused and need help. You have an agenda for going back in a living situation with a someone who is too unstable to live with that is why you state, "no choice." There is always a choice but it might not be the house, car, dog, and securities. Perhaps you are tired of living with mom and the exwife is your only place to live right now! I think you have an angenda and are going back for the wrong reasons and YOU are not looking like a nice guy!

I am going to call you out on the I am a hero to my wife syndrome! What are you getting out of fixing your wife? Why would you want to be with someone you need to fix which is impossible!

You made a deal with your wife that you will attend meetings, and your going against your own feelings about the JW for the sake of your wife if so.

Your lying to yourself and you want to deceive others; your wife as well as other Jehovah Witnesses will be hurt because you will be a big disappointment to them. You are going to go to meetings right off it is based on a lie, you already know that you no longer like what they teach. Next, you are going to make friends for "your wife" by appearing to be a JW which you dislike. Do you think JW do not get attach to people? Sure they are humans like you. You will hurt other by this little lie once they find out that you no longer believe in the WTBTS doctrines. Guess what?

The one you are hurting the most is the person you see in the mirror everyday. You are hurting yourself because you are wasting your time and energy with a lie. Grow up!

You know what I would like to see? You get yourself together before you try to help anyone else! Stay strong be honest and upright. Do what is right and let your wife go so she can get her help and not be depended on you. Your wife has had mental problems before her physical health issues and maybe for some reason you have the need to help her. You did not seperate for 8 weeks for nothing and your wife did not get a restraining order on you for nothing!

Do you think you will be able to fix someone? If so you really need counseling! Does it ever shock you that you were attracted to someone who has mental illness? Would you have married your wife if you knew she had mental illness? Now, who really has the problem your wife who knows how to control you with her neediness, or the person who falls for someone who needs to be fixed and wants everyone to say, "What a nice guy!"

Take care hope this helps you!

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They make me Sick!!

by wary in

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friends

it makes s me sick that the witnesses have such a hold over people.

ive told my wife and shown her all the crap about the society but she still insists ongoing to meetings.

shes off again this afternoon and taking the kids.

Sarah Smiles

You are the one who changed so why should she leave the organization? It sounds like it is your problem and not her problem. Maybe she is happy with her life and your not?

Look at this way, at least she not hanging out on the streets looking for drugs or hanging out in a bar leaving you at home with the kids.

It just seems like your anger is coming from some place else! What is it that your not telling us?

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How did you feel about attending another church?

by digderidoo in

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friends

this question is for those who have attended another church since leaving the jw's.. i have considered attending a local church, firstly out of curiosity and secondly because i do enjoy discussing the bible with people and learning new thoughts on scripture.. the only thing that stops me though is crossing that line.

i guess it was a bit like when i first posted here, it took me ages to pluck up the courage and now what was the big deal?.

did anyone else have this feeling before attending another church, that feeling of crossing the line of no return.

Sarah Smiles

I feel that it is okay, although the Trinity is always going to be a hard concept for me. I just do not believe in it. On the flip side, I don't believe in some main doctrines of the WTBTS. I know that Trinity is one doctrine compared to many doctrines of WTBTS which I do not believe. Here something, I know the churches would say keep on coming back, and the JWs who say if you do not believe they are the 144,000 you get kicked out.

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Ten Plagues of Egypt (mentioned WT 3-15-09)

by cameo-d in

i am sure this must have been posted before, but since the ten plagues are briefly mentioned in the upcoming wt, i thought it might be worth posting again.

perhaps it will provide an opportunity to pass this on to a jw friend as food for thought.. .

the lice & the flies - both plagues #3 & 4 can be grouped together because they are related by term - insect- due to the large masses of now dead frogs on land, insects would gather to feed on.

Sarah Smiles

I believe in the Exodus and the plagues on Egypt, but I do not believe in modern day fullfillment of the ten plagues by WTBTS Declaration against the world.

This really should be an eye opening event for any Jehovah Witness that something might not be right about the WTBTS!

1st Plague, Water to Blood = YHWH's denouncement on COMMERCIALISM

2nd Plague, Frogs = YHWH's condemnation of MORAL UNCLEANNESS

3rd Plauge, Gants = SPIRITUAL UNCLEANNESS OF FALSE RELIGION; CHRISTENDOM DOES NOT COMPARE TO YHWH'S PEOPLE

4th Plague, Gadflies = UNSCRIPTURALNESS OF FALSE RELIGION/CHRISTENDOM IS LAID BARE BY JUDGEMENT MESSAGES

5th Plague, Pestilence = THE DEATH OF THE SUPPORT OF ALL SATANS SYSTEM BY ITS SUPPORTERS, THANKS TO JUDGEMENT MESSAGES

6th Plague, Boils = POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS LEADERS WHO HAVE THE MARK OF THE WILD BEAST

7th Plague, Hail = SPIRITUAL FLASHES OF LIGHT RESULTING IN THUNDEROUS WARNING OF DIVINE JUDGMENT TO ANTI-TYPICAL EGYPT (satans world) THE HAIL = HARD SMASHING BIBLE TRUTHS THAT PUMMEL ANTI-TYPICAL EGYPT (satan's world)

8th Plague, Locusts = THE EXPOSING OF FALSE RELIGIOUS DOCTRINES BY THE ANNOINTED, SHOWING THESE DOCTRINES TO HAVE NO LIFE OR VALUE

9th Plague, Darkness = THE EXPOSING OF SPIRITUAL, POLITICAL, RELIGIOUS, AND SCIENTIFIC INSIGHTS OF SATANS WORLD AS DARKNESS

10th Plague, Murder of 1st born sons = FALSE RELIGION IS EXPOSED AS NOT BELONGING TO YHWH, BECAUSE ALL FIRSTBORN BELONG TO YHWH. A JUDGMENT AGAINST FALSE RELIGION.... (I am including the reference from the 65 WT directly, as it is curiously missing in the WT Pub Index. More evidence of selected pruning....

I do not know where the WTBTS gets off thinking that there needs to be a fullfillment of the 10 plagues!

Perhaps, I should check Rutherfords writings on the 10 plagues and post it, because you will laugh so hard your sides will burst then you will cry! Oh, did I do a fullfillment of Rutherford's writings in reverse? Laughter prior to bursting! LOL

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Here Comes the "Sons Of Light"

by cameo-d in

looks like we have some changes that will probably come about in the next few years.. has anyone heard hints dropped about melchizedek in the wt materials lately?.

i would imagine they will begin with subtle references in preparation.

you know they use tip-toe methods and not any great big announcements.. .

Sarah Smiles

At some point, I am sure they will announce the 144 K who will come from this melchizedek "christ class".

Interesting! I think they already did in old books as anti typical and typical, so it does not surprise me that they are making hints in the WT.

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1914: Look what REALLY Happened!

by cameo-d in

1. eschatology of jehovah's witnesses - wikipedia, the free encyclopedia... ground-breaking magic lanternand cinema production the photo-drama of creation in 1914, suggesting that the great pyramid was built by the old testament king-priest melchizedek.

a ...... i know jws who are spooked by using even the word "magic".

they feel it is demonic.

Sarah Smiles

Hebrews 7: 20 "And it was not without an oath! Others became priests without any oath, 21but he became a priest with an oath when God said to him:
"The Lord has sworn
and will not change his mind:
'You are a priest forever.' "[ b ] 22Because of this oath, Jesus has become the guarantee of a better covenant.

23Now there have been many of those priests, since death prevented them from continuing in office; 24but because Jesus lives forever, he has a permanent priesthood. 25Therefore he is able to save completely[ c ] those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them.

26Such a high priest meets our need—one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens."

What do you think of the above scriptures?

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Who is the Green Man?

by cameo-d in

scotland, glasgow.

post 4279 of 4282. since 10/5/2006.

....the green man ....is he also osiris?.

Sarah Smiles

Maybe he is a green woman!

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Nephilim . Please educate me the best ya can.

by lurk3r in

sigh.

i cannot believe how much the society fudges some thing.

it's starting to get me more than i thought it would.

Sarah Smiles

Leoliah actually yes they were from two different generations! You seemed to write as if you have some sorta of accurate knowledge! I did not get that thought from different fables you enjoy quoting as if they were divinely inspired. You write as if you are some sort of expert but in fact your just doing research like everyone else. You based your research on what fables after the account? I based mine on common sense! Read the two generations above Gen 6 and it explains it. Your doing what the WTBTS claims! I say they come from two generation and you claim they do not! Also,some seemed to think the books of Enoch are the same that Jude quoted from, but I am not too sure of that one either. I do enjoy reading what you say but your not an expert nor am I, your just doing research and making essays sound really really good! I'am just going to have a big laugh!

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If You believe that Jesus is God....

by lurk3r in

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friends

i know that everyone here is an individual with their own thoughts and beliefs,and i'm not starting this thread to debate whether or not jesus is god or not...but i am kinda curious about this.

thank you in advance for taking the time to consider this with/for me.. jesus christ instructed people on how to pray.

with the opening line of the lord's prayer he said (something to this effect) "our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name" (hope i got that right).

Sarah Smiles

NWT

"No man has seen God at any time: the only begotten god who is in the bosom (position) with the father is the one that has explained him"

Now one should object to Jesus as a lower case god! Which the WTBTS states would be a false god!

John 1:18 (English Standard Version)

18 (A) No one has ever seen God; (B) the only God, [a] who is at the Father’s side, [b] (C) he has made him known.

Does anyone have the Diaglott on this scripture? I remember that the WTBTS older version Diaglott had God instead of god!

WTBTS screwed up by saying he was a god instead of a God!

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If You believe that Jesus is God....

by lurk3r in

jw
friends

i know that everyone here is an individual with their own thoughts and beliefs,and i'm not starting this thread to debate whether or not jesus is god or not...but i am kinda curious about this.

thank you in advance for taking the time to consider this with/for me.. jesus christ instructed people on how to pray.

with the opening line of the lord's prayer he said (something to this effect) "our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name" (hope i got that right).

Sarah Smiles

Here are some scriptures I found.

NWTColossians 2: 19 because [God] saw good for all fullness to dwell in him,

KG 19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

Again

NWTColossians 2:9 because it is in him that all the fullness of the divine quality dwells bodily.

NIV 9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,

And My favorite! Where the Alimighty God speaks of Jesus as God!

NWT 8 But with reference to the Son: “God is your throne forever and ever, and [the] scepter of your kingdom is the scepter of uprightness.

But I think the WTBTS says that God is not referring to Christ but to himself!

but still Jesus is made see Hebrews 1:4